Source: The Truth
Nell’ era of globalization you still talk about tradition. How can you be a traditionalist today?
«There are industrial and nuclear powers like India, Russia, o at dinner, That, despite communism, awakened his remote Taoist identity, confuciana, Buddhist and even a Maoism interpreted in continuity with l’ ancient imperial ideology".
So?
«These countries are proof that a strong traditional identity manages to assert itself in spite of secularism and the dissolution of values».

India, Russia, China Models far from’ Today's West.
«I mentioned Russia on purpose, because it is the greatest European power. His is a people totally identified with our history. And it is a very Christian nation, indeed very religious".
Very religious?
«It contains the three great Eurasian religions: Christianity, Islam and Buddhism".
So we were wrong to keep Russia out of it’ European Union?
«The European Union is complicated to create when the two European nations with the deepest history are missing: England and Russia".
Even the Church seems to have abandoned the sense of tradition.
«Christianity is expressed today above all with the strong Russian Orthodox imprint. If we put aside the presumed centrality of Rome, we realize that there is even a fighting presence of Christianity in the world".
Dove?
«Think of the reaction of the Christian communities in Syria, who faced the darkest moments".
Christianity is healthy?
«They peep out on the shelves of the most secular bookshops, powerful and vital, Meister Eckhart's treatises".
Someone reads them?
«Then look, on highways, the trucks from which the images of Padre Pio emerge".
Truckers will save the Church?
«The truth of the people will save her, which is much stronger than an exercise in doctrine".
Ecco, the people. Today everyone talks about it. But because they use the category of populism inappropriately?
«Because the parameters to evaluate it are still missing».
And where do we get them?
«We must practice analyzing reality from a historical perspective: what is happening with populism is historic".
Really?
«Historically it is a surprise that the’ England had Brexit, that someone like Donald Trump has come to lead the United States, or that a resurrection of the’ Asian white horde, from China, all’ India, passing through the snows of Siberia and along the route of the new Silk Road".
We are experiencing an epochal transition?
"Yes. No one would have imagined that the situation described by Giovannino Guareschi with Don Camillo's trip to Russia would be reversed".
Upside down?
"Today, Don Camillo would be more at ease in Moscow than in Rome itself".
Everything was born in reaction to the separation of the elites from the people?
«I would like to make my own an answer that in a’ Gennaro Sangiuliano gave an interview to the Truth: the elites are like the aristocrats of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries in Russia, who spoke to each other in French to mark their distance from the people".
But if the elites are so out of touch with reality, they do not risk being overwhelmed by it?
«No. However, they are the true masters of all the mechanisms of power. Look at Italy: despite the electoral victory of the Galloblù, those who really command are always the same".
How do you get out of this system?
«By building a new elite. But I find it complicated".
Populist parties will not be able to form their own ruling class?
"First of all, they should unite, but it's hard to imagine a’ international of nationalists".
There is no glue?
«C’ it is a generational solidity, like the one that kept Matteo Salvini and Luigi Di Maio together".
And then?
«Populists must move away from the logic of the twentieth century».
Meaning what?
«Right and left. It seems to me that in Italy they have succeeded. In France they are trying thanks to the yellow vests. But the danger of “calls to arms”».
What calls to arms?
"For example, those of the République in the run-off between Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen. In Italy the same thing would have happened in the time of Silvio Berlusconi, if Gianfranco Fini had been there to challenge Achille Occhetto".
The left would have won?
«Even the nuns would have voted for Occhetto».
What do you tell me about sovereignism?
«I tell you that Italy doesn't even have its own sovereignty».
So sovereignism makes no sense?
«In this world c’ he is the only true sovereignist".
Who is?
«Ciccio Kim».
Chi, Excuse me?
“Kim Jong-un”.
The North Korean dictator?
«Right. His s’ he made his atomic bomb and no one can tell him anything about the deficit. Even Trump now finds it delicious".
I'm playing the game. Our "atomic bomb" as it may be?
«The geopolitical position».
The geopolitical position?
"Yes, it is a prerogative that very few have been able to use. The last to do so was Giulio Andreotti. Our advantage is not being in the’ European Union, but be overlooking the Mediterranean".
Explain to me better.
«The key players in international politics are playing their game in the Mediterranean. We have to take advantage of it.".
Who are these subjects?
«Russia in Syria; the USA, who no longer intend to support the dirty operations of the French and English in the Maghreb; and China, which is moving into that’ area its own trades, with l’ widening of the Suez Canal".
And how do we undermine the competition from our French cousins?
«Playing dirty. Like when we supported the coup that brought Muammar Gaddafi to power in Libya. But we have to do things right.".
That is to say?
«A couple of examples: open a port in Ortona, build another one with deep draft in Gela".
I 5 stars are against great works.
"It is not true. Alessandro Di Battista said that they were in favor of large strategic works".
Pure all’ high speed?
"Yes, the Rome-Matera or the Palermo-Catania one. It's really useful there.".
And what should the ports in Ortona and Gela be used for??
«To the large Chinese ships, which would save them the trouble of passing through Gibraltar to get to the Baltic. The ultimate goal is to reclaim the Silk Road".
An arduous task, for an unnatural alliance like the one between Lega and 5 place
«But because it's unnatural?».
They don't seem like two very different parties to you?
«Where the League is strong there is no’ it is the Movement 5 stars and where the Movement is strong 5 stars not c’ it's the League. Southern families, who voted en masse i 5 place, cos’ they have something different compared to those in the North who voted for the League?».
It is said that the former want more welfare, the latter minus the State.
«I say that they are two related social blocks. In the North c’ it's work, in the South, young people are fleeing because of unemployment, however, both of these electorates wanted to definitively close with the previous ones".
Who are the ones from before?
«The famous competent ones, the experts, those who always claimed to explain what should be done. For the South the vote was revolutionary".
Revolutionary in what sense?
«For the first time, the great mass of’ Southern electorate did not vote for the establishment parties".
And this is what it means?
«That clientele and subservience have collapsed».
Why, the yellow-blue government will last.
"Yes. First of all because it has no opposition. And then because it is much easier for the League to govern with i 5 stars than with the centre-right".
For what reason?
«Governing with the center-right means making the decree for that, the amendment for that’ other Do you want to put? Being with i 5 stars is a treat".
Salvini will not return to the center-right?
«Now Salvini is crucial in this coalition. What interest would he have in getting back together with others, which would become decisive for his government and would make him subservient?».
The Democratic Party will start courting again 5 place?
«With what arguments? The vast majority of’ electorate of 5 stars has nothing to do with that world".
Tell me what the yellow-blue government promotes and rejects.
«In reality we haven't seen much yet. I can tell her what I would like her to do.".
He tells me.
«The Pentalega supporters must secure Italy. Maintenance also provides work. And then, l’ emergency number two".
Which would it be?
«The school. Before we talked about the Silk Road, no?».
Yes. So?
«There are in China 11 millions of directors d’ orchestra. People who are trained on a cultural heritage that comes from us. Investing isn't just about playing do re mi fa sol. It means saving money".
Italy imagines it big.
«We are not a people of heroes, santi, scientists and navigators?».
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