Source: The Truth
The last one was the Strasbourg attacker. France is full of new generation immigrants who, despite being legally citizens, they hate their country.
"Yes, there are many young people, French in all respects, who don't feel French. They think that, whatever their efforts to integrate, they will always be considered second-class citizens".
And they shoot into the crowd?
«Let's say that, for compensation- it is, they start fantasizing about the i- cultural identity of their parents and grandparents, which however they in turn have now lost".
So?
«So they live a profound but- the identity being, which makes them vulgar- blackable to propaganda".
Islamic fundamentalism exploits these gaps in identity?
«In some areas, the Muslim community has already begun to er- gersi as a sort
of “countersociety”».

A "countersociety"?
«For many young people, already gone through delinquency, becoming soldiers of the caliphate is a dream, when compared to the prospect of delivering pizzas".
So Islam is not so much the enemy of- Christian civilization, as much as the dross of the failure of liberal democracies?
«It is certainly too simplistic to judge Islam and Christianity as two entities that are enemies of each other, also because one and the other are not homogeneous realities. But I think she's right.".
On the true enemy of Islam?
"Yes. The Islamists who attack the West do not do so so that it exists, or it was, cristiano, but because we have devoted ourselves to a culture without points of reference, to a commodity culture, which is a cult- nonsense".
In short, the American-style melting pot was a failure.
"Actually, also in the USA, where immigrants coming from the South of the continent are not Muslims, they no longer talk about melting pots, rather than "salad bowl". But one thing is definitely true...".
Which?
«That is beyond a certain quantitative threshold, the coexistence between different ethnic groups poses problems that no one else, for the moment, knows how to solve".
There are too many immigrants in Europe?
«Be’, it is certainly preferable to preserve the ethnic identity of European nations. But it remains stable- find out how to achieve this goal".
He talks to me about European nations. The rebirth of the national state is not a pious illusion?
«Nation states have been in crisis since 1930. Too old to face everyday problems, have now become too small to deal with major global issues".
They are incapable of making decisions?
«Globalization and European construction have deprived them of most of their sovereignty, without this sovereignty being reproduced at a higher level".
But then why are nationalisms being reborn?
«Because for people a bad shelter is better than no shelter». You are considered the theorist of the so-called Nouvelle droite. Right
and left still make sense?
«The dichotomy between left and right has long been obsolete. It is clear that, with the growth of populism, the people-elite vertical axis is replacing the right horizontal axis- left".
About the elites: it doesn't seem impossible to do without it, as some populists seem to believe?
"Today, in global society, the
elites represent an internal caste- restricted to its exclusive privileges, which gradually broke away from the people. In this sense, populists are perfectly justified in opposing elites who ignore them, they humiliate them and subject them to a triple exclusion, cultural, social and political".
Yes, but this is also not a "bad refuge"?
"Indeed, establish if and how these transnational elites, of “landless”, which are opposed almost everywhere to the impoverished middle classes, can be replaced by another elite, it's a whole other question".
If populist parties were to win in the European elections, the European Union will collapse?
«It's difficult to say with certainty. But a Eurosceptic majority consecrated by the ballot box would in itself be the equivalent of a thunderclap.".
However, many consider an alliance between the various populist movements to be unlikely.
«To me, an alliance between the different European populist movements seems entirely possible».
It seems possible to her?
"Yes. In some cases it has already been done. On the other hand, I don't believe in such alliances, necessarily contingent, can lead to a truly "international". National contexts are too different".
And what's the mood in France?? Marine Le Pen will benefit from Emmanuel Macron's unpopularity?
«According to the latest polls, Le Pen's National Rassemblement is in the lead".
In the head?
«The yellow vest revolt benefited him more than it did- given to Jean's France insoumise- Luc Mélenchon. But…”.
But?
«If the yellow vests presented their own list they would weaken the opposition and allow Macron's supporters to win».
But how? The yellow vests risk becoming Macron's "useful idiots".?
"It's the reason why the Elysée is pushing under the table for the creation of their list".
It really will end like this?
«In my opinion, the interest of the yellow vests is not to give in to this temptation. Their strength lies pro- precisely in the fact that they act outside of parties and unions".
They must remain "loose cannons"?
«They must remain plural, elusive, uncontrollable, don't turn into a party".
Meanwhile, the first populist government in Europe was born in Italy.
"As always, from you the political situation has evolved to a ve- extraordinary location".
We beat everyone to the punch…
«The formation of the populist government was felt everywhere as a historic event».
Really?
«Right. Who with sympathy, some with fear, but everyone today looks at Italy as the "laboratory of populism"".
And in his opinion the Italian experiment will last?
«A break between the League and 5 stars is a real possibility: both due to programmatic differences, or because of personal issues, is, Still, due to possible difficulties in governing".
Net of the obstacles that populists could encounter, one can imagine a Europe different from that of the bureaucrats?
«Of course. On the contrary, we should not confuse this Europe with the idea of ​​Europe itself: the greatest accusation that can be made against the EU is precisely that it has discredited Europe as such".
The fact that the European Union wanted to ignore the question of its cultural roots (especially Christians) is among the causes of this failure?
"I wouldn't talk about Christian roots".
No?
«In the true sense of the word, a root is something that goes deep, which refers to the origin. But Christianity is not at the origin of Europe: when Christ was born, European culture had already existed for centuries".
A Europe before Christ?
"Yes, but on the other hand Christianity was a very important component of the history of Europe. It is the totality of this story that must be taken into consideration.".
And what does today's Europe do??
«It gives a shameful picture of his past, reduced to a succession of dark pages".
It refers to the various attempts to erase the past, perhaps in the name of condemning fascism and Nazism?
«I say that any form of “repentance” must be rejected. We don't know where we have to go if we don't know where we come from".
What responsibility does Germany have in the impasse of European construction??
«I don't like Germanophobia or scapegoat logic».
Ma…
«The policy that Germany is pursuing under the leadership of Angela Merkel is detestable».
Detestable?
«It is at the origin of all the difficulties caused by the adoption of a single currency modeled on the mark. But that doesn't necessarily mean Merkel's politics, who is about to relinquish power, belongs to the “eternal Germany”».
There are those who argue that the great difficulties encountered by Great Britain in implementing Brexit are proof that the European Union is irreversible.
«I don't think the Brexit example is the best ever. At this point one might ask whether Great Britain's membership of the European Union was ever in the offing- justified".
It wasn't?
«Charles De Gaulle didn't think so. He believed, not without reason, that the United Kingdom felt closer to the United States than to European interests. That said, nothing is irreversible in history".
And how do you see the future of the EU?- clothes?
«I believe in an implosion of the European Union».
An implosion? And after that comes?
«The story is open. But three threats loom over the world.".
Which?
«A demographic explosion, which is one of the causes of immigration, a new financial crisis and an ecological disaster".
My goodness... We risk the apocalypse?
«In history nothing is predetermined. We just have to watch out for the signs that warn us of what's coming...".
edited by Alessandro Rico on La Verità 7 January 2019
source – https://www.ariannaeditrice.it/articolo.php?item_id=61406